Monday August 8, 2005 8:57 AM

Kids Shuffleboard - Letter from an Oregon Rater
Tolo Tavern Central Point, Oregon
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The Future of Shuffleboard in Bourbon, IN

(I had hoped to head out to the Michigan Open and Friday replaced my old car for the drive. Of course, then I realized I didn't have the cash flow to go to Michigan! I'm so glad I stayed at home and watched these kids. They had a great time and I had a great time watching them learn the etiquette and joys of the game. )

Bourbon, IN -The Bourbon Legion once again played host to kids 4-16 for their 2nd Annual Kids Shuffleboard Tournament on the Legion's 5 shuffleboards. The Legion provided food and outside games to occupy the children between matches. There was a duck tank, balloon darts, a knocking down cans game and several others. The younger kids enjoyed winning many prizes while enjoying the beautiful day outside.

Greg Wallace took charge of running the brackets for the 4-6 year olds in the double elimination event. This youngest group played to 11 instead of the usual 15 points. Some of these kids were barely able to see over the end of the board, but provided the watching (and agonizing) adults with an exciting afternoon. This is the only time I will probably ever see players SKIP from one end of the board to the other. (and probably the only time I would WANT to) Finishing 1st was Haylee Ritter and Justin Wallace was 2nd.

Keith Spencer wrangled the 7-9 year olds. This age group played to 15 and provided some very entertaining games. The winners were 1st place Destinee Flowers and 2nd place was Tanner Senff.

The largest group of the day was ran by Eric Keenan. There were 10 kids in the 10-12 age group. This event was won by Matt Stewart with Jacob Stouder taking 2nd place.

Jay King watched over the 13-16 year olds. These older children are very experienced and didn't need much direction in keeping score or keeping track of the hammer. Many of these kids have been playing at the Legion for years. Brandon Senff won the winners bracket but lost the first game of the finals to Adam Creighbaum. Brandon came back in the final game to take first place in that division.

Thanks to Mary Houser for keeping everyone in drinks, Wally Dan (aka Harvey Altman) for the over all organization and registration of the kids and Robbin Creighbaum for setting up the games and helping all day.

Any parents wanting pictures may email me at for the highest resolution (not shown on the web) or just "right click" to save them from the picture gallery. - AH

"Why is so and so still a three?" by Art Elliff

As I am writing this, the new Bowers Ratings for 2005 have just come out. As in the past, all of us raters expect the same comments from a lot of the players. "Why is so and so still a three? I am a strong three and he is a much better player than I am."

The answer is that most raters in the U.S. tend to hold back their own local players, so that they can compete an extra year. We justify this by saying that if the raters from other states do it, so should we. There are exceptions to this, as I can think of one woman player from California that I played against three times in one year. The first time she was a three and she got better each time. She made a great improvement in her game this one year. She was able to slip by as a three, because of the timing of when the ratings came out. I think she earned this by hard work. She is now a two. I don't have a solution to this problem, as I don't think you will get all of the raters to change.

I may have a PART solution to this. I think a five is someone who knows how to put the money in and how to score. A four is a little better, but is still shooting with one hand. With this thought in mind, I suggest we make the four and five numbers advisory only, and not to be used in the Bowers system for any "add to tournaments." If a four or five wants to play, they play as a three. Also, when computing the ratings of a player, don't use a number higher than a 3.49. If a rater puts a four or five on a player, it goes to the advisory side and isn't used against other ratings a player may receive. As it is now, one rater can give his player a high number and screw up the average of two or three other raters.

If you are a three player, and think you are playing to the best of your ability, and probably won't get any better, you will always seem to have a new crop of strong threes that may be twos playing against you. All this problem in the three division, is probably the reason the A/B format is so popular. Threes have to move to twos to play.

As a sometimes director of tournaments, I am only holding A/B, Opens, and 3 person bring tournaments. (Limit one a player). That way I get out of the problem with division three. I know this isn't fair to the legitimate threes, but I don't know how else to level the playing field.

I may have some more comments later on, but my finger is getting tired typing this.

Best Regards to Everyone

Art Elliff (Oregon Rater)

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Tolo Tavern, Central Point, Oregon A/B Bring Partner August 5-7, 2005

Not final @ 9PM EST
Bud Spier/John Edwards
Al Hudson/Joe Cupp

John King/Jeff King

As reported by Timi Kale

Sparky Williams/Timi Kale
Art Elliff/Don Prescott
Don Stallsworth/Ray Nordine
Billy Maxwell/Dan Glasscock
Danny Holland/Mike Carew
Sue Treston/Shirley Kittrell
Mike Kinney/Isreal Ochoa

Shuffleboard Database

My current project is to enter all the shuffleboard venues in a database. I have used what I have entered already to do a mailing to the over 60 businesses that have (calcutta) shuffleboard tournaments scheduled in 2005. I only had one returned so I must have the correct data. Once I figure out how I want to present the information on a web page, I'll go live with it. You will be able to sort be state and search by venue name and all manner of other interesting things once I am finished.

I will be able to allow certain people to login and update the information on there own. This will be limited to trusted sources from across the country, of course.

Email your shuffleboard tournament results and scheduled events to:
Phone: 574-342-0618 eFax: 267-327-0618

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